Evening at Adler video is online
The Evening at Adler video is available on its own suitably campy separate section as of right now, which is where you should be sending people. This was that little deal where some of the brightest indies in the Mac scene descended upon Chicago for a casual conversation on October 21st, 2005.
The video and the audio rip are available via a torrent and many generous web mirrors, although bittorrent is preferred, as is seeding -- it's not just for downloading Doctor Who anymore. As previously mentioned, it's being released under a Creative Commons license, because I want as many people as possible to be able to get to know these guys, and to be exposed to some of the ideas in it.
Take it, show it, snip it, post it, remix it, or just string together all the drunkenbatman space-cadet moments as a reminder of why sleep is important and its not socially acceptable to drink before noon. Above all, have a good time with it.
With that, I'm going to Disneyland.
Posted by drunkenbatmanNovember 14, 2005, at 10:42 PM
Comments (55)
Posted by: guerom00 at November 14, 2005 10:51 PM
Download started (hence seeding started).
Damn, that's fast !
Posted by: Clint Ecker at November 14, 2005 10:54 PM
I'm helping to mirror the iPod version created by Bruce Hoult:
http://clintecker.com/DrunkenBlog_EAA_Video-ipod.tar
Posted by: Daniel Axelrod at November 14, 2005 10:59 PM
Yay! Thank you for all your work in making this possible!
Posted by: Colin Barrett at November 14, 2005 11:14 PM
I knew there was an advantage to sitting in the front row! ;)
Posted by: Chris Perardi at November 14, 2005 11:15 PM
I hereby pledge to seed the torrent until Friday.
Of course, with the crippled upload speed of my cable connection, this means little.
Posted by: at November 14, 2005 11:28 PM
Congrats, fastest download from a torrent I've ever seen.
J
Posted by: stridey at November 14, 2005 11:58 PM
Just finished the vid. Thanks so much db, I know this whole thing has beaten the s**t out of you, but I get a rush at hearing so many cool people say so many cool things.
Posted by: Anonymous at November 15, 2005 12:04 AM
DB - you are the man. I'm downloading @ 308KB/sec and that rocks.
Posted by: Alex at November 15, 2005 12:09 AM
I'll be seeding both torrents for quite some time. Though this won't be much help when I'm at home, but when I'm on campus, these things will fly.
Posted by: jacob at November 15, 2005 12:25 AM
Is there some reason why the torrent is so much slower than the http mirrors? I download at about 50 KB/s from the torrent, while I get about 500 KB/s from Clint Ecker's mirror. I'm a newbie to bittorrent... how to speed the process?
Posted by: Matthew Williams at November 15, 2005 12:33 AM
Thanks for seeding everyone! I will seed for as long as I can!!!! (Audio)
Can't wait for my next car ride to listen to this.
Posted by: Nugget at November 15, 2005 12:36 AM
The speed of the torrent will vary depending on the ratio of seeds to downloading peers. I was seeing 1.6MB/sec off the torrent before it was announced and it was 100% seeds and 0 peers. Now we're up to 127 people downloading and only 59 people seeding. Your rate will pick up steam as those people downloading start receiving more of the file and eventually reach 100% and join the list of the 59 seeders.
In the time I took to type that, the ratio went to 125 downloaders (who can only send parts of the file) to 61 full seeds.
Posted by: at November 15, 2005 01:15 AM
I'm seeing 460k/sec, saturating my cable connection.
Posted by: Rosyna at November 15, 2005 01:39 AM
BitTorrent fails again! Nothing but piracy I tells ya.
Posted by: Nicholas Pacheco at November 15, 2005 01:57 AM
Just finished the video. Great job, thanks again for all the hard work!
Posted by: mindflayer at November 15, 2005 02:01 AM
Be interesting to see how much traffic my mirror pushed out. :)
I know you've been sweating this one, DB. Now go relax, and pour yourself a stiff one. That's a stiff DRINK.....
Posted by: Anthony at November 15, 2005 02:23 AM
The torrent really flew. It seems like a good idea to not unecessarily burden the HTTP mirrors if you're set up for torrents.
Posted by: cameron aka desk003 at November 15, 2005 02:54 AM
If you do use the torrents though, please seed back, at least so it's 1:1. (you upload as much as you downloaded.)
Personally, my server has tons of bandwidth, and I have some money stashed away and so I told db I'd buy more bandwidth for my server if the download used all of it up. So far, I havent had but about 10 downloads. So at least my server is okay bandwidth wise. I can also attest that it's very fast.
Posted by: Dan at November 15, 2005 03:13 AM
Awesome video.
Can I just say that Brent Simmons is hilarious?
He is.
Posted by: Daniel Axelrod at November 15, 2005 03:21 AM
Thank you so much to DB, everyone on the panel, and everyone else who made this possible. This was one of the most enlightening 2 hours 30 minutes I've ever spent.
And DB, for heaven's sake, RELAX now!
Posted by: barebore at November 15, 2005 03:22 AM
Personally, my server has tons of bandwidth, and I have some money stashed away and so I told db I'd buy more bandwidth for my server if the download used all of it up. So far, I havent had but about 10 downloads. So at least my server is okay bandwidth wise. I can also attest that it's very fast.
So drunkenbatman has so many mirrors they are jealous of each other's traffic. :-) With bittorrent and so many mirrors it is not surprising no one mirror is getting hit hard. I would be more curious about the distribution pattern among them since their download is not chosen at random from a script. Do people click the first one they see, or think the third down will be fastest? How many people scroll down to the bottom of the mirrors?
Are statistics being kept at all?
Posted by: joel at November 15, 2005 04:02 AM
At the moment there's not much traffic on my server too.. let's wait and see.
Great video! I wish I could have been there, but flying in from Germany was not an option.. ;)
Posted by: Heller at November 15, 2005 05:17 AM
crazy... 26 mirrors is large enough to handle apple's webcast... with bittorrent? probably 30% of the people using that... not very experienced mirrors... even if there are 40,000 total downloads of this over the weeks split 26 ways minus bittorrent traffic it all gets spread around and people wont click on the farther ones down the list unless they recognize the name... cool video though, shipley's powerbook gag made me laugh out loud
Posted by: Anonymous Coward at November 15, 2005 06:41 AM
Thanks to everyone involved, two and a half hours went by fast. The DRM section was scary considering the actions of Sony of late. Boycotting Sony is an option, but I need Photoshop, and Gimp just won't cut it yet. :( Macromedia's activation is just as bad and screwed up my Mac, now Adobe does it. The only alternatives CLOSE to competing with no software activation are on Windows.
Posted by: Jesper at November 15, 2005 07:09 AM
You're all nuts. Every single one of you. Cameramen, panelists, audience, inebriated superhero.
Posted by: [maven] at November 15, 2005 07:49 AM
Thank all of you for your efforts.
Posted by: Jesper at November 15, 2005 08:11 AM
And another thing. If Wolf is the Doctor Who of this bunch, then Rosyna is the Tarantino.
Posted by: Rory at November 15, 2005 09:30 AM
That was really fantastic DB, much respect to you and those who participated :)
Posted by: kk at November 15, 2005 09:31 AM
Thank you db and the volunteers. This is awesome.
Posted by: Savvy at November 15, 2005 10:01 AM
Absolutely loved the video, it was interesting to get to know the famous Mac developers and their visions on technology :)
I downloaded the video using a http mirror, I picked the one tagged with Europe since someone was wondering about statistics.
But I will help seed it on BitTorrent all week :p
Thanks again for the video!
Posted by: Mrdini at November 15, 2005 10:05 AM
Any chance of subtitles.....? :(
Posted by: Dan at November 15, 2005 12:01 PM
I would be more curious about the distribution pattern among them since their download is not chosen at random from a script. Do people click the first one they see, or think the third down will be fastest?
I picked the University (".edu") mirror.
Posted by: Jonathan vT at November 15, 2005 12:16 PM
When I first got it I left it seeding for 850 MiB, and I just continued seeding at 100–110 KiB/s. This is what keeps torrents fast, and I don't need the bandwidth at the moment, so why not?
Posted by: Wes McGee at November 15, 2005 01:18 PM
Ding Dong Girl, is there a joke in there that I'm missing?
(I actually read that entire scientology bit thinking that there would be some soft of Adler related payoff at the end, but I couldn't find one.)
Posted by: Steve Streza at November 15, 2005 01:45 PM
I'm currently hosting off of a line with unlimited bandwidth (yes, no limit), with a 10 megaBYTE per second upcap. I have lots of bandwidth to push around. More people should DL from me. ^_^
Posted by: Malte at November 15, 2005 05:24 PM
Ah, that was nice stuff. Interesting discussions, though it got a bit too deep on some areas such as frameworks.
I'll keep on seeding.
So - when is the slashdotting coming?
Posted by: oliver at November 15, 2005 05:53 PM
That was fantastic. I didn't understand a lot of what was said, but I still thoroughly enjoyed it. Just seeing the faces behind some of the apps I use on a daily basis (and the different personalities of them all) was reason enough to watch. I also gained a new appreciation for just how complex app development can be and how difficult it must be for small, independent software developers. Finally, it's pushed me to actually contribute towards some of the apps that I appreciate but so far haven't got round to registering for one reason or another.
Thanks again DB and everyone involved.
Posted by: at November 15, 2005 06:57 PM
It'll be on slashdot when someone submits it to slashdot.org
Posted by: mindflayer at November 15, 2005 07:03 PM
Errrr, what is with the Scientology thing? I guess DB got enough attention to have them start posting, as the link goes to
http://www.arc team.com
which states:
SCIENTOLOGY, DIANETICS, LIFE REPAIR, THE BRIDGE, OT, ABILITY, THE AUDITOR are trademarks and service marks owned by Religious Technology Center and are used with its permission.
SCIENTOLOGIST is a collective membership mark designating members of the affiliated churches and missions of Scientology applied religious philosophy.
and registered to Mr Keller, a known Scientology proponent:
http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/w/wolfgang-keller.html
http://myreligion.scientologist.net/wolfgangkeller/
So, DB - getting spammed by cults now. You're in the big time!
Posted by: Jon at November 15, 2005 08:51 PM
great video. seeding it right now
Posted by: cabbey at November 16, 2005 02:55 AM
With luck this will go over the slashdot crowd's radar, as the original happening doesn't seem to have ever been covered. (Not to mention their collective heads, very deep conversation at several points, I loved the bits I've seen so far.) I'm still seeding in any case... and will let it have all my unused upstream bandwidth for now.
Once again DB, well done.
Posted by: McVeigh at November 16, 2005 07:16 AM
Great video, thanks again.
I tried submitting this to slashdot with my account, but my connection is weak and Safari is timing out. :( Will there be a EAA 2.0?
Posted by: icedtrip at November 16, 2005 09:07 AM
great video db. job well done, all 2.5 hours of it. i had hoped to go, but couldn't make it. i am lined up for eaa 2.0 if it happens and will be more than willing to help contribute in volunteer work.
i will continue to seed as long as neccessary. not that my upload will help a lot, but every little bit helps.
Posted by: Richard Albury at November 16, 2005 09:49 AM
Thanks! However, from the README:
"descended upon to"
Is this some kinda sly Dubya joke?
Posted by: Xor at November 16, 2005 10:52 AM
Thank you!
Enjoying the video from Costa Rica!
Posted by: Cap'n Hector at November 16, 2005 03:42 PM
More people should use my mirror…I set the cutoff at around 1 TB of downloads and I've only seen ~13 gigs so far.
Sheesh, do we not have enough fans or something? ;-)
Posted by: Other_Matt at November 16, 2005 03:44 PM
DB, you rock! Love the video.
Posted by: bbrv at November 17, 2005 06:24 AM
I should have worn my new as of yet unworn DB Cowch t-shirt as I watched the video. That is a good watch, as much for its specifics as it is for the general tone/sentiments expressed about development and developers in general. Even at 3AM it was interesting or I would not have watched the whole thing. The only thing you ran out of was time. Why not make it a quarterly event?
Note to DB: DRM and "fair use" is not something that will ever find equilibrium until the user is engaged as part of the solution because the content itself is compelling enough to inspire it. :-)
Posted by: Greg at November 17, 2005 08:28 AM
The audio is too quiet. Even at full volume its very quiet.
Posted by: cesar at November 17, 2005 10:41 AM
cool video! I like it very much!
just a questions for all the guys in the video? why there is no a good mail reader? why there is no a good backup solution? what make them good or bad?
what will be your specs for a good mail client?
have fun!
Posted by: MACC at November 17, 2005 10:18 PM
Just seen the vid. Very cool. Did you encode that in vx32?
Posted by: mullzk at November 19, 2005 10:12 PM
you rock. and all your guests too. thx for the vid...
Posted by: Chealion at November 21, 2005 06:25 PM
I just finished watching it and wanted to pass on a big hearty thank you to yourself and all involved for creating this. It was an absolute amazing job (albeit the audio on the video was very low).
Posted by: Ajay at November 25, 2005 05:01 AM
Good event, very interesting to watch, probably because DB didn't get on his soapbox about DRM. The developers were a thoughtful bunch. Don't know if it was the editing but everything seemed to flow very well. I wonder if DB will write a blog entry someday to explain that twisted analogy he made that nobody got. btw, if your volume is too low, watch the video with VLC. It lets you turn the volume up a lot higher than quicktime.
You rock!