Synergistic Insidious
I've long had warm feelings for IHOP, aka, the International House of Pancakes chain, as they...
- Generally have a low-key vibe.
- Serve breakfast food always, and I love breakfast food. It's criminally underrated for after-drinking, which isn't to say Taco Bell and Pizza don't have their place, but don't underestimate how much alcohol french toast or a tall stack can soak up.
- They've got whole little rows of syrups no sane person would ever seek out (boysenberry?) but you give them a shot because they're there anyways.
- Many, if not all, of the franchises are open 24 hours. I love me my little diners, but they're often closed at 2am.
- They don't just bring you a cup of coffee, they bring you a little pot. I loves me my coffee with my cigarettes and pie when much conversation and planning is going down on napkins. You ever want to pick my brain on something, offerings of beer or coffee and pie have a habit of getting me there.
- They're often a little cleaner than your average Denny's.
I don't completely remember what the deal was that caused me to end up at their site about a month ago, but I believe I was trying to talk someone into going for pie and coffee and conversation and cigarettes. IHOP can rock for that, and whatever the reason, I ended up at their site and saw it was pretty much taken over with Hurricane stuff from New Orleans.
Not just donation links, but actively trying to get their employees that may have been displaced info on where they needed to go to register for help, and info on where they could try to get employment at a franchise where they ended up. I snapped the shot because it jogged my head a bit. They basically shoved all their normal content for consumers so far below the fold that the site had become geared towards helping their employees first and foremost as well as throwing consumers towards donation links -- at the very least keeping Katrina in their minds.
Pretty cool, but just about every corporate site went 100% Katrina come the next day. It's the kind of thing I'd normally make a snapshot of (hence my messy desktop), along with a mental note to follow up on it and maybe post about it, but never actually do. Anywho, this morning I was clearing out my Desktop and found it, because if you don't it gets dead slow in Tiger, and went and checked their site -- it's still all about the big storm.
Then, and I don't really know why, but I got curious and started pinging around. Denny's website -- a diner franchise in the same vein -- has really prominent hurricane stuff, although they have their food above it.Places like McDonalds and Walmart have prominent links for donating and other relief efforts, but most technology companies seem to have dropped it. I.E., ibm.com, microsoft.com, msn.com, dell.com (Dell does have donate links on inside pages, like say when you hit the home office buying deally), and sony.com are sans relief links, while Gateway has a rather prominent section on their site still.
Apple's website actually has a little link, which you can sorta make out in this screencap...

I actually thought Apple didn't have a link, but went back to double check because I knew I'd never hear the end of it if they did have one. Once I did see it, I got annoyed, then pissed, then sad, all the while wondering if I had any right to be.
As an aside, one of the things that fascinated me about this is the idea that with a certain amount of traffic, screen real estate is worth cash, especially to tech companies that are endeavoring to sell something to you. Think of it like shelf space on a book store -- that stuff is all laid out intentionally, with big seller stuff right there when you're coming in, and el-cheapo-gotta-move-it stuff right there on your way to checking out in the hopes that you'll pick it up on impulse. It works the same way with screen real estate, with stuff above the fold being worth more, etc.
This stuff all gets computed via spreadsheet for the marketing folks to work their magic, and what's featured on the front pages of these are generally there for a reason. When the hurricane stuff hit, sure a lot of companies had altruistic motives for blanking their sites for donations, but they also had PR in the equation: "If everyone is doing it, and we don't, someone somewhere will pick it up, and we'll look like asshats."
Fascinating stuff, but equally weird is that the whole equation has to be run again to decide when they should take it down, or slowly phase it out to something there but not quite as prominent, to a little link somewhere, to gone. Someone, somewhere has to decide when the cash that could be funneled -- and the PR benefits -- is now not outweighed by what the company can generate by reclaiming that space. This isn't my problem, as that kinda has to happen, otherwise there'd still be donation links for the last disasters around everywhere.
No, what's making me queasy is the link itself: Donate in ITunes.
It's not the fact that you can donate if you have an iTunes Music Store account, that's great -- make it as convenient as possible. My issue is with the thought process that led them to suggesting you send it via a gift card in their service instead of also linking directly to the RC donation page. I'm all about synergistic effects, where you try to use momentum from one thing to benefit another indirectly, but this does make me a little queasy.
Not really angry, and I guess not even really annoyed, just queasy, and I'm wishing they would have just taken it down instead of this last phase.
Comments (32)
Posted by: Mike at October 10, 2005 11:31 AM
It was the same after 9/11 -- how long to keep up the donation links and so forth. They were pretty much all gone by the end of the year, so using that as a basis, the hurrican stuff will be gone by the end of this year as well, although of course that is the time that many of the people there will end up needing help the most, once everyone forgets about them.
Posted by: Omar at October 10, 2005 11:38 AM
I kinda agree with you, and I kinda disagree. I agree on the fact that the link could have been AT LEAST one of those three rotating pics at the bottom of the page.
I disagree about the iTunes comment though. I mean, I understand what you're trying to say, but consider this: During the tsunami, I was just overwhelmed by all the different ways possible to contribute... And was actually pissed it wasn't possible in iTunes the first days. Then, they put up a link, and I happily donated this way. (I'm a student with no income, this was much more convenient than sending a check or a bank transfer)
Posted by: at October 10, 2005 11:52 AM
It's nothing to get worked up about if Apple gets a few more people to sign up for iTMS or reminds people they have an account. Business and charity need not be at odds.
Posted by: Ben at October 10, 2005 12:12 PM
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that their "donate in iTunes" thing was *not* calculated to make more people download and install iTunes. There are people that comfortably spend hundreds of dollars in iTunes, and some of those people will be happier to donate money through iTunes than any other way.
Apple has streamlined the getting-cash-from-people process in iTunes, so that's where they have people donate. That doesn't make me queasy at all, and I consider myself hypersensitive (as most thinking people are) to that kind of thing.
Posted by: at October 10, 2005 12:22 PM
"Apple has streamlined the getting-cash-from-people process in iTunes, so that's where they have people donate"
And the red cross hasn't?
Posted by: stinksoup at October 10, 2005 12:27 PM
Say those three little words... "All Day Breakfast" mmmm.
Posted by: AkaXakA at October 10, 2005 12:27 PM
Are you kidding? Making iTunes a must for donating is a _great_ idea! It's one of the more brilliant marketing/business ploys Apple's come up with and should be applauded for their devilish way of making donating to relief organisations good for Apple and iTunes' marketshare.
Fuzzies be damned!
Posted by: ex-apple at October 10, 2005 12:46 PM
Yeah, Apple is always fast to put up a donation link, but ask yourself how much did the company donate? Did it match employee contributions? Check the SEC filings.
Posted by: Twist at October 10, 2005 12:56 PM
Another great thing about IHOP: free WiFi (at least at the one I visit).
Posted by: mullmusik at October 10, 2005 02:09 PM
Boysenberries rules IMO, but then and again, maybe I'm not sane.
Posted by: Ben at October 10, 2005 03:19 PM
Of course the Red Cross had streamlined the getting-cash-from-people process, but definitely not as streamlined as one-click (tm). I mean, even if the red cross has one-click donations, Apple would still have a non-overlapping set of people all prepped for one-click purchasing on iTunes, then for those people, donating through iTunes will clearly be easier. How is that debatable?
Posted by: Mood: Perplexed at October 10, 2005 03:51 PM
Apple's donation link seems like a good idea to me. Donating via the iTunes store has the benefit of not sending your personal information to the Red Cross. That way, the Red Cross won't just waste your donation on telemarketers who keep contacting you until the end of time about making future donations.
If someone looking to chip in a donation is already an iTunes Store customer, it's an avenue worth pursuing. If not (and I'm not), there are other ways.
Posted by: kingbenny at October 10, 2005 03:53 PM
my only opinion here is that I've never had a good experience with IHOP. ever. Not clean, always way too crowded, mediocre food, less-than-mediocre servers, the list seems to go on.. Perkins has a much higher success rate for me.
Posted by: at October 10, 2005 04:08 PM
Well, Apple's highest exposure (and soon-to-be largest installed base) these days is around the iPod. Many iPod users frequent the iTunes Music Store. However since the majority of iPod users are on Windows, those same folks are not very likely to visit the Apple website.
It sounds like you're assuming the link on the Apple home page is their primary way of encouraging donations. Given the above, though, I'd suggest that more folks could be hitting iTMS than the Apple website, such that the link you cite is really secondary.
Posted by: aaron at October 10, 2005 04:57 PM
If the iTMS is seen as the primary means of touching those that might donate . . . why is there no donate link on the home page?
Posted by: Fubar at October 10, 2005 05:00 PM
While deployed by the Red Cross in Montgomery, AL I ate at the IHOP there several times. For some reason I thought I'd share that, it seemed synergistic.
Posted by: Eric at October 10, 2005 06:03 PM
What Aaron said. You can only get to the ITMS donation page via Apple's home page link. I could find no other link to it on the ITMS home page.
That said, I'd be far more gratified to see Apple making significant corporate contributions than simply providing a way for me to make a contribution. I've already got more options for doing that than I can manage. And, thus, if Apple's link doesn't seem to be ideally placed or designed, etc. I just don't think that's a big deal one way or another.
I do have a question about the acceptability of the ITMS receipt for US federal income tax deduction purposes for donations over $25. I'm not sure that would adquately replace the real thing from the Red Cross.
Posted by: Dave at October 10, 2005 06:18 PM
Well.
First you soehow figure out how to connect IHOP to, um, iTunes. Now - that is a stretch.
Then you somehow connect charity to Apple. This really takes a damn good bit of stretch.
And - judging by the comments so far... this equates to you BIGGEST non-relevant post in months.
I see only one reason for this post DBM... agendas.
You could have saidd just as much about [fill in public company name here] but you did not. Instead? You connected relief for a hurricane that decimated a portion of the USA to Apple Computer Inc. And while doing so, made them a 24/7 pancake house.
Wow.
You deserve, um, ANTI-kudos for this.
Posted by: Carl at October 10, 2005 07:00 PM
Waffle House needs a shout out, y'all. Much love.
Posted by: drunkenbatman at October 10, 2005 08:20 PM
I see only one reason for this post DBM... agendas
Amusing -- but not really, just the thought process I went through, and its perfectly fine if you disagree.
Posted by: MACC at October 10, 2005 08:21 PM
I had a bad experience with IHOP last I was there.
I spent my whole paycheck on pancakes. But boy
they were good. OK just the spending the paycheck was bad.
Posted by: Ihopped at October 10, 2005 08:33 PM
MACC: You either (a) eat a lot of pancakes or (b) have a really crappy job.
Posted by: Nabil at October 10, 2005 10:59 PM
I'm not entirely sure why Apple having a little link for an alternative method of donating on their site makes you queasy, rather than the lack of even that much from other major companies.
While they could have done more or better, perhaps, compared to others in their industry they've done well. Which is a sentiment I sometimes think is lacking on the site: while they have their share of screwups, they're still doing comparatively well.
As an example, you decry their user interface, but compared to standard Gnome or Windows 95/98/NT/2000/ME/XP/Vista, they're doing damn well. I recognize the need to expose the messes, but that's really not all there is.
Posted by: joel at October 11, 2005 03:39 AM
IHOP always reminds me of the Lewis Black scene from his White Album :)
Posted by: matt at October 11, 2005 07:10 AM
Sorry, but all this gets me a little hot under the collar. Why do you get a warm and fuzzy feeling from a US site supporting a US disaster relief effort? There are greater needs in the world that go completely unnoticed. The cynic in me says IHOP is overtly supporting the relief effort not out of altruism, but as a marketing tool (they would look mean if they didn't). Show me a US company donating prime webspace to the Pakistani earthquake relief effort and perhaps I can mellow out a little.
Nation-states are so 20th century.
Posted by: mindflayer at October 11, 2005 08:21 AM
Matt:
Thirty thousand + people gone. Boom. Our front page news is about Britney's Bra on Ebay, and the cops exercising piss poor judgement down in New Orleans. We're such hypocrits.
Posted by: Dave at October 11, 2005 12:18 PM
Pancakes International.
I remember one holiday I spent in Holland as a kid - the dutch have these fabulous open air cafes that sell 'profiteroles?' which are tiny - memory tells me perhaps 2" diameter - pancakes that they serve with icing sugar and butter.
The icing sugar is in a big bowl patrolled by sugar stoned wasps.
Magic.
Posted by: Jacob at October 11, 2005 01:32 PM
My dad isn't a fan of IHOP:
Once about 10 years ago, at IHOP, he thought they had put a scoop of ice cream on top of his stack of pancakes. Needless to say he spit it out right quick. But didn't make it to another IHOP for like 5 years.
Posted by: Jade at October 11, 2005 05:57 PM
Zippy's is good to you
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