Of FUD (aka, Apple and x86 Questions, Part 7)
Joachim writes:<--snipped-->
Anyway I just read an interview with another sony bigwig here and his talk of an OS for the PS3 was weird. Maybe I am wanting it too much, but do you see a collaboration with Sony and Apple for an OS? I mean the whole WWDC year of HD and the PS3 can do 1080p HD and that twice with dual monitor connections! Plus this would get them off the hook with IBM and put the hardware in Sony's hand just like the how they are putting the peripheral chips (north & south bridge) in Intels.
qutoes from the article that I like:
"Of course, the PS3 can run Linux. If Linux can run, so can Lindows. Other PC Operating Systems can run too, such as Windows and Tiger (Max OS X 10.4), if the publishers want [them] to do so. Maybe a new OS might come out.""The user interface will also get interesting. In the case of the PC, users will have to wait for years between XP's UI to Longhorn's. But the PS3's UI will evolve much faster."
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Oh my, did Sony see you coming a mile away...
Marketing and PR have been around long enough that there are well defined tactics used for different situations. Rarely are they revised, although they can be tweaked, but this is textbook. I.E., a common tactic is spitballing, where you throw things out there just to see what will or won't fly, what has interest and what looks like it'll be a dud.
Sometimes companies will even leak a rumor themselves in various ways, and if people are into it it's bumped up the list on the possible feature roster, and if people are going nuts, things are revised and they can then say "We'd never do something so stupid, don't believe what you hear on..."
What Sony is doing here isn't spitballing, or at least not entirely, but rather common garden-variety FUD, aka "Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt." Sony kicks ass at FUD usually, because consoles only come out every x-umpteen years and releases between the competition have traditionally been somewhat staggered, and you have to give people a reason not to buy that shiny new console shipping months before yours.
However, over time just about every group of marketing geniuses have found themselves with a conference room and a situation that's ripe to introduce FUD. In fact, it's used so often and so pervasively by technology companies -- because their situations have a habit of rhyming -- that a manager's bonus might as well be set by how well they can spin a web FUD that looks for all the world like an inviting place to sit down.
When people think of FUD, they often jump to easy examples where competitor A jumps ahead of competitor B with a product that is taking off, and competitor B decides they have to slow their momentum somehow. I.E., "Yeah, if you wanted you could go buy Acme Widget, but our Ronco Widget will be out in a month and have all the features of Acme Widget plus these others and will be much cheaper."
Of course, competitor B has just started their product when they saw the success of competitor A, and there is no way they'll have it out in a month, and there is no way they'll have it out in a month, and they probably won't have the features, but they'll hopefully slow the momentum of their competitor. The idea is that enough people -- hopefully through the media regurgitating press releases -- will think twice about the product to buy you some time.
This is an accurate example of Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt, but it's not the whole story. While we've come to hear the term FUD associated with the above scenario, it's much more insidious than that and while marketers are aware of it the general public often isn't. FUD, as it's most base level, is simply strewing negative, false, vague, twisted, or inaccurate information about a competitor's product or vaguely twisting the mindshare of an upcoming product to have the same effect. In most cases, something like "Vapor-ware" is a form of FUD.
While the above scenario is about a competitor's product that's already out, one can also find oneself in a situation where it'd be tempting to try to try the FUD tactic towards a competitor's product that is on its way.
Microsoft is very, very good when it comes to FUD, and got a big name for employing it early, often and to great effect. Amusingly enough, they've actually backed away from using it because they've entered a sort of permanent incumbency in their core markets: Operating Systems and Office. No one can touch them there right now.
Microsoft rarely talks about Apple, and when they do they generally don't do so negatively, even though I think there are areas they could just ream them on. They don't do it because if you're polling at 95%, and some little crazy guy is in the corner saying they want to do xyz, even responding to them lends them more legitimacy than they really have.
If you extrapolate the analogy out to where Microsoft is a party with multiple elections in different districts going on, there you can see some FUD. They're not above strewing FUD around where Linux is making inroads (especially the server arena, where they're both competing to chew on Unix), or the media players, or PDAs, or the Xbox.
However, even there I think you're seeing Microsoft being much more judicious with FUD than they have previously, to avoid it backfiring, but more on that in a moment.
Apple is, for all intents and purposes, in the running with SCO for the title of "King of FUD" at the moment. 90% of their entire marketing effort for Tiger was built around FUD, almost as though they couldn't quite figure out how to actually market the few end-user features they were throwing into it.
The marketing of Tiger was less about what was in it than about bashing Microsoft's future product in vague and often inaccurate ways, and the Mac base cheered. This is like politics -- it's a dirty trick unless it's your side doing it, and then it's "justifiable" or "completely different situation".
Which isn't to say that FUD didn't get picked up in places. Many of the faithful took it as bullet points to bander about in the forums, but I think they also caused a lot of people to roll their eyes. It was so over the top and lacking in context they were just setting themselves up to get nailed in a backlash after the cheering of the faithful and some news reports (Apple and others have a habit of paying to repeat their blurbs), they wisely pulled back.
Amusingly enough, while Apple was all about FUD with Tiger, you'd be within your rights to contrast this with most of their marketing for the iPod, which is primarily centered around what it does, while many of their competitors define their products by the iPod and liberally employ FUD.
I could go on giving examples of companies employing FUD in various ways, as even those in the OSS camp try it (generally poorly, as with anything marketing related), but it's worth mentioning that like most things FUD works in cycles. If you miss where it's beginning or ending you're going to feel some pain -- you can't FUD all the time, or you run the risk of the story becoming about you FUD'ing and why you might feel the need.
It'll probably never go away, though. The thing about FUD is, like most dirty tricks, it's highly effective when employed correctly.This again is very reminiscent of politics -- and just like politics, since everyone is doing the dirty tricks, after awhile people can get mightily sick of it and mightily turned off by those perpetuating it. Taking the high road rarely gets you more points than sinking towards FUD, but it does sometimes. Even then, it doesn't last forever and the cycle starts anew.
Yes, it can be incredibly depressing.
To get back around to Sony, and your original question:
Maybe I am wanting it too much, but do you see a collaboration with Sony and Apple for an OS?-- snipped--
qutoes from the article that I like:
"Of course, the PS3 can run Linux. If Linux can run, so can Lindows. Other PC Operating Systems can run too, such as Windows and Tiger (Max OS X 10.4), if the publishers want [them] to do so. Maybe a new OS might come out."
Anything is possible, but many things are also highly, highly unlikely.
Sony just throws stuff like this out (O gawd, what they spewed about the Emotion Engine...) there to try to compete in the console mindshare battlefield with the Xbox (Nintendo is really only a threat in handhelds now), which has been slowly but surely picking up steam in the living room.
Sony is just trying to trip up some of the Xbox's momentum in areas by throwing bread crumbs off the beaten path about their product and how consumers view it.You'll hopefully spend your evenings pondering and hyping its future offering and what it may or may not do -- instead of picking up an Xbox or gorging on its hype. It's all just forms of FUD, and if you pay it mind, its working.
When you follow politics long enough, you go through phases, but eventually you start tuning out what was said and look at the tactics employed in it being said, because that's what necessary to have any clue as to what's going on. We passed the same point with technology companies long ago.
Comments (15)
Posted by: robert at September 30, 2005 11:55 PM
I must have been sleeping during the Tiger launch, so I don't remember the FUD. Really. Except the "redmond start your copiers" taunt, which was just infantile. Any examples? It would be hard to spread FUD to windows users, since the majority has nothing to fear from Apple. And if it was FUD designed to scare Mac users into upgrading, I must have missed that while running the migration assistant...
Posted by: at October 1, 2005 12:24 AM
I remember WWDC and the news shows and articles after
"Introducing Longhorn."
"Redmond, start your photocopiers."
"This should keep Redmond busy."
"Redmond, we have a problem."
Same time Steve Jobs was on news saying microsoft and longhorn and copying and "years ahead" over and over. I thought it was funny and overdue. About time they took credit!
Posted by: Anthony at October 1, 2005 01:40 AM
Cell (the CPU for the PS3) has been the basis of large amounts of FUD, and while Sony has been part of it IBM has been much worse. They've tried to make it look like Cell is so revolutionary that it's eventually going to replace PowerPC. The Apple community has been susceptible to this, first because PowerPC was falling behind and something big needed to change, and then because many people wanted to believe something other than x86 was in the works.
With Apple and Sun throwing in with Intel and AMD (respectively), x86 has now consolidated the desktop, the laptop, the small server, and everything in between. Cell was never a viable alternative because it lacks too much general purpose power, but IBM convinced people it was going to happen. Even as chips shrink, you can see the SPEs take up too much room to add much else. Even if it gets a decent PPE front end one day, other chips will just get more cores (eg a dual-core Athlon64 2.4 ghz with 1 mb cache per core has a smaller die).
Posted by: Arc. at October 1, 2005 03:33 AM
Nice, DB. My wife hates you for waking her up. Was catching up on RSS in bed when I saw the Simpsons graphic and laughed for five minutes.
Posted by: Pius at October 1, 2005 04:57 AM
What with MS not using FUD to protect their core markets (OS and Office): Granted, I haven't seen much FUD about Office, but that there's nothing out there about Windows? Have you been sleeping the last, what, six years? In the OS market, MS does its typical FUD, exactly what they did for e.g. Win95:
- announced their product three generations ahead (do you see Sony talking about the PS 4? Linus about Kernel 3.2? Apple about feline6? Yet MS had their feature announcements out for "Longhorn" before the launch of Windows 2000.
- totally highballed the feature list: Remember how Windows 95 was supposed to be totally object-oriented? Just like OS/2, only more so? How it would have instant-search, total stability, would be 32-bit everywhere? Well, OS/2 was. Win95 wasn't.
We see the same with Longhorn now: planned features get cut (WinFS), features get removed (OpenGL), it comes out late, and you can bet it won't be as shiny as it was supposed to be[1].
[1] And anyway, I didn't want no shiny OS, I wanted one to work with. Like, a consistent OS. Something like NT4 with Unix underpinnings. Too sad they FUD'ed BeOS to death.
Posted by: AkaXakA at October 1, 2005 05:45 AM
"(Nintendo is really only a force in handhelds now)"
Ha! No. Only in the US does the Xbox lead the GC by a nice margin. In the EU it's pretty much level pegging, and in Japan the Xbox is a laugh. Xbox Live has indeed spurred growth a bit, but with a new round come new chances. How else did Playstation grab such hugh part over the market where Nintendo was king?*
*Of course, Xbox Live, or any subscription service, makes it far easier to consolidate your marketshare as it makes your platform a lot stickier...
Posted by: V-Twin at October 1, 2005 01:52 PM
Microsoft is scary in itself, it's hard to be certain about what they'll do, and it's easy to doubt them. So whatever Apple says about Windows or even about it's own OS could be interpreted as FUD toward MS.
Microsoft doesn't use FUD anymore, they now use anti-FUD which is actually FUD in disguise :) Take a look at this very interesting salesmen training slideshow pdf on Microsoft's site.
http://download.microsoft.com/download/C/6/3/C632A374-D48C-403D-9DAA-D5E9FBB187A5/Do_Dont_SellingSituations_BenT_04.pdf
Check it out before MS removes it :)
Posted by: Aaron Brethorst at October 1, 2005 02:32 PM
Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't really see what the issue is with the 4 page deck linked to above.
V-Twin:
"they now use anti-fud which is fud in disguise"
Can you explain in a little more detail about what exactly you mean? I'm not trying to bait you, I'm just not exactly certain about what you're getting at here.
Thx much - aaron
Posted by: V-Twin at October 1, 2005 03:40 PM
Aaron, I wasn't that serious about the second part of my comment, maybe I should have used winking smilies instead.
Still I'll try to reply with a more serious angle. The "4 page deck" as you call it seems intended to reverse damage done by previous FUD techniques and over-zealous MS sales reps. Now that many people know that Microsoft used FUD to some extent in the past, and trained their salesman with list of bad things to say about Linux etc. Many IT managers are now suspicious and annoyed when they hear a MS employee bashing Linux and the competition. So MS has to try to make it's rep forget the habit of FUDing.
I think that there is still FUD in disguise in all these Do's and Don't. I'm not saying that everything in the pdf is, but some part is.
For example they say "Dont: Create Wrong FUD"... So there is such a thing as good FUD?
In the Do's, what's that "Better together" story? To me, fundamentally it's the same as the "Worse without" story, but the wording is more pleasant to the ears in the "Better together" story... Also in the Do's, they say "Frame the discussion on value" If they say that their product has more value, what they are saying is that the competition has less... A free OS (Linux) must have less value no?
Also the part about "Relate to the three common realities often taken for granted" seems to be about one of their FUD tactics which is to remind IT managers that even if Linux is free, the installation, deployment, usage and support and maintenance are not. (-Free?) It seems so commonly used by their sales reps that they don't need to write complete phrases about it. :)
Anyhow Aaron, maybe you are a sales rep and this looks like normal stuff to you ;) But knowing what MS has done in the past, I personally find this pdf doc kinda creepy overall.
Posted by: Michael at October 2, 2005 04:34 AM
"Take a look at this very interesting salesmen training slideshow pdf on Microsoft's site."
It's hardly surprising that companies put out material like that. "Don't bash the competition" is a classic warning. For, of course, such a direct approach can be dodgy - at least in some jurisdictions. For example, in the EU a company whose employees don't walk carefully could find itself in breach of EU "anti-competitive" legislation. And the legislation is even tougher in some particular areas, like telecomms. No one wants to subject to a "dawn raid" and the fines that (in principle) may be levied can be really shockingly punitive.
I don't know about the States, but major UK companies would certainly deliver regular courses to staff reinforcing what may and what may not be said and one - and to all staff not just sales staff. And they'd make those courses mandatory. There may even be a EU requirement that they do that. But anyway a company would want to be able to prove in a court of law that it had taken reasonable steps to apprise its staff of their legal responsibilities.
Of course, company literature will take the line that this is good anyway and it is "best to sell on our strengths". That may be true, at least some of the time. OTOH, that may be partly the "public face" of the company, not what it's corporate mind really thinks. Either way, they _have_ to say this. I'd think the situation in the US is not likely to be much different.
Posted by: FUD buster at October 2, 2005 02:20 PM
Amateur piece of FUD.
Like a five dollar whore, I guess you get what you pay for.
Still I think Microsoft should get their five dollars back.
Interesting that you feature Homer the homo in your article. Shows a lot about yourself.
Posted by: Sandy at October 2, 2005 03:48 PM
Speaking of marketing tactics, the razor makers have been quite amusing of late. Consider this from Gillette on the upcoming release of the Fusion:
"The Schick launch has nothing to do with this, it's like comparing a Ferrari to a Volkswagen as far as we're concerned," Chairman, President and Chief Executive James Kilts, told Reuters.
Which led the Onion to weigh in with this.
Posted by: Keller at October 3, 2005 10:36 PM
Sandy-
Its even funnier to note that the Onion actually posted that article in February 2004.
Posted by: joachim at October 4, 2005 04:20 PM
well I guess I bought the FUD. But who know? I should have also linked to the article where sony wants the PS3 to get taxed as a computer especially due to import taxes. I know that Apple, and everyone else, wants to get into the living room and is waiting for the right moment.
We sensationalists love FUD as long as it supports our conspiracy theories.








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