Of the Mighty Mouse (Redux)
The other day I went a little nuts on Apple's new Mighty Mouse, because I figured one good splooge deserved another (No more emails about splooge -- count yourself lucky this wasn't titled "Oh, how the mighty have.." and be done), which included a lot of stuff, but my questions about the actual mouse itself boiled down to:
- How well the buttons work (Remember -- if these worked well, I was willing to give them major points)
- How well the trackball nub works. More specifically, whether you are constantly flicking your finger up and down or wagging it side to side.

- What the hell the tag to right on Apple's site meant -- My working theory was that the mouse might cost $.99+ per minute to use.
That very strange marketing blurb turned out to just be the normal mechanical click of the mouse
It's still a normal Apple on-button mouse you have to click down on, so there is that standard click, but there's some thingamajig to make small noises when you scroll or squeeze. Still, that leaves the buttons and the trackball...
This probably isn't going to be a quote Apple will included on its project pages, but when his reviews have been positive they generally are. Mossberg is kind of a big deal -- not so much with geeks, but with general folks, and he's pretty damning in his latest Wall Street Journal column:
So, stop the presses: Microsoft has beaten Apple on hardware design, at least in this one case.
What you have to watch about Mossberg is that he's about as unbiased as they come. If he like something he says so, if he doesn't he doesn't, and you don't have to worry that he's being paid to promote the iPod or Walkman on TV or something, which means people give what he says a lot of sway. For reference, he dug the iPod, and has trashed Sony's offerings.
On the buttons, he says:
In separate tests with separate Mighty Mouse units on separate computers, my assistant Katie Boehret and I found that right-clicking with the Mighty Mouse was unpredictable. Sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't. We needed to press the right side repeatedly to get a single right click, slowing us down and annoying us, well, mightily.
On the trackball, he says:
The scrolling function on the Apple mouse is also somewhat compromised in the name of design. Instead of the tried and tested scroll wheel, Apple embedded a tiny "scroll ball" in the top of the Mighty Mouse. It allows you to scroll vertically, horizontally and even diagonally. It looks cool, but I found it inferior to a scroll wheel and could never get it to work diagonally.
He gives it some points for the squeezy-buttons, but also trashes it for being priced as a premium but not having premium features like its competition, such as being wireless. The 'diagonally' part is probably a bit of Apple's "360" marketing biting them here, as when you say that stuff in marketing, people are going to be able to expect to do it.
Still, we already know all the stuff about it being overpriced for a wired mouse, but what I was really interested in was his comments about the buttons, because they'll come up again.
Oh, Miss Cheng, Miss Cheng. Ars's Infinite Loop has been on a bit of a roll lately when it comes to the Mac. On the day it came out, they hoofed down to the Apple Store and picked one up, then threw their first look up -- complete with obligatory unboxing porn.
Because it's Ars, Miss Cheng's significant other pinged me letting me know they'd decided to take the Mighty Mouse apart completely to see how it ticked, to the shock and horror of many I'm sure, but to my abject delight. You should really check it out, because it probably shows exactly what is going wrong with those buttons and it's always fun to see hardware dismantled when it's not yours.
For some reason, Apple seems to have decided to just have the front of the mouse act as one big sensor. I.E., there is a sensor letting it know if you are touching the left side of the mouse when you click, which will register as a normal click, it looks as though actually touching the 'right button' side of the mouse doesn't really matter at all. Unfortunately, even if you are just resting your finger on the 'left button' when you click, that means you'll get a regular click.
Buttons don't seem to be a strong suit here, but since they had one, and they have access to the red phone and we were getting along swimmingly, I got to ask Miss Cheng about the trackball:
Compared to a scroll wheel, I have to use my finger significantly less. You can adjust the speed of the scrolling in the Preferences anyway, so it's really up to you regarding how far you can go with a roll. The default settings have it going relatively fast though - it's hard to describe. Maybe just a bit more than the default settings would be on a regular scroll mouse with a single full-finger scroll... but yeah, the finger movement is greatly reduced.Now, compared to a tilt wheel, it's a little different because you don't actually scroll sideways on tilt wheels but tip it like you would for a thinkpad nub or something. Personally, I hate those, but I know a lot of people like them. ;) So you do have to use "more" finger movement scrolling sideways than you would for a tilt wheel because you're not actually using much movement at all for a tilt wheel. But again, the scrolling is fairly fast and you can adjust the settings, so the finger movement is pretty minimal.
That's part of the reason I love it so much... I can do so much with it and yet barely move my finger at all. Plus, it feels good and is fun to play with. Hrm, maybe that's why people are calling it the clit mouse... wait this is getting inappropriate...
Easy boys, as I so love this chick too, but we've already exchanged words on whether or not it's appropriate to propose to someone you've just met who is bound to another. Still, Miss Cheng says the trackball works for her quite well, so it looks as though my fears here were unfounded.
I noticed Rory talking about the Mighty Mouse as well yesterday, and considering he was across the damn Atlantic the last time I checked, the fact that he was already playing with one of these is a little sad.
On the buttons, he says:
Unfortunately in this relaxed position you can't right click on the Mighty Mouse without first lifting your index finger.The problem with keeping your left finger in the air is that it requires you to constantly keep one of the tendons in your arm under stress, this eventually will lead to RSI or some other issue with your wrist or arm.
RSI is Repetitive Stress Injury, and um, it's bad. You get this when you make your body do the same thing over and over in a way it wouldn't normally want to do it -- causing strain on joints or ligaments and tendons -- and it is just nasty and accumulates over time, like not changing the oil in your car. In severe cases over time, it can be disabling, and giant talking monkeys weren't meant to use computers.
Rory may well have a valid point here, because one thing about the candy pill mouse was that it was fairly ergonomic -- you were supposed to lay your hand out straight with the wrist on the mouse. A click was just a slight pressure, but all your joints were aligned and there was no undue stress.
With this mouse, because of the way the buttons work, clicking means applying pressure with your index finger, but you can't just apply pressure with your other fingers to create a click with the second button -- you have to lift up your index finger high enough so it doesn't confuse the sensor. This may or may not cause some strain after time, but it doesn't seem 'right'.
On a side note, I have to take issue with his keyboard claims, because everyone knows the ADB Apple Extended Keyboard II was the best keyboard for the Mac ever made, and once it died the crown was picked up by the Matias Tactile Pro. It's all about the mechanical key switches, which you can hear from the next room but kick so much ass.
It looks like the buttons are... not ideal. It would appear as though a design decision made something an issue that didn't need to be, and that's disappointing. When it comes to the trackball, Miss Cheng dispelled some of my fears about use, and that's very cool.
Some of you asked me about whether or not the trackball could be cleaned, and it doesn't appear to be the case. It's really hard for me to get over that too, because I've probably spent an entire cumulative week of my life turning mice over to get the mouseball out and clean it. It isn't an altogether unpleasant memory, because there is always a certain harmony in a mindless task, but it isn't one I'm looking to repeat.
It may end up not being that big of an issue -- I've only had to clean the scroll wheels on my mice once or twice, and whether that says more about the difference in mechanism or usage, I don't know. Trackballs have always seemed very sensitive to dirty and grime, but that's when they're scraping across a desk.
Of course, if this is a problem and your scrolling starts to get wonky, you can't clean the trackball, which comes in a little mechanism which -- just to get to -- requires breaking the mouse. Maybe someone like Rory or Miss Cheng can keep us posted on that part, as it's all I'm really curious about now.
Comments (17)
Posted by: Skatch at August 5, 2005 07:31 PM
This right-click issue seems to be a real drawback. I take back part of my previous comment because I had read some comments on the Ars forums suggesting the buttons worked via a pressure sensor. Obviously that turned out not to be the case, and having to lift up your left-button finger to right click will, I think, cause people confusion & frustration because that's not how most right-click.
I think I read somewhere else that this mouse was meant to debut alongside Tiger, but was held back so they could do additional QA testing on it. If that's the case, I'm surprised they didn't find a better way to right-click.
Posted by: Rory at August 5, 2005 07:36 PM
DB, scissors keys are the best! I did try a Matias Tactile Pro at Mac Expo in London last year when I was evaluating which keyboard to get, but I find I can type faster with low profile keys and I don't like all that extra noise! I do have an Apple Extended Keyboard II and an ADB-USB adapter so I can use it with OS X if I want, but the thing is so big and noisy that I don't. Really I think its reputation as the best Mac keyboard ever is a little exaggerated, the keyboards in the aluminium PowerBooks are the nicest in my humble opinion. The worst Apple keyboards ever on the other hand were the Duo ones.
Posted by: Mighty Moose at August 5, 2005 08:09 PM
I share your concerns about the way the right button was designed, and especially about its potential to contribute to RSI; however, it should be pointed out for the benefit of non-Mac-using readers that right-clicks are not required anywhere close to as frequently in Mac OS X as in, say, Windows. This means that the need to lift the left finger for a right click, while a questionable design decision, is not as big an issue as it might first appear to be.
Posted by: Anthony at August 5, 2005 09:51 PM
I think I could live with the right-click issue, but Apple has had some significant and recent reliability problems in other products so I don't really trust them on the scroll ball.
If I were getting a Mac today and it were one of two choices, I'd chance it, but I'm not going to replace my current optical wheel mouse.
Posted by: Sandy at August 5, 2005 10:21 PM
"it's always fun to see hardware dismantled when it's not yours."
Truer words were never spoken.
"the keyboards in the aluminium PowerBooks are the nicest"
We must type very differently. I use a wireless with my powerbook when I'm at my desk. I'm awful on the Powerbook keyboard.
"it should be pointed out for the benefit of non-Mac-using readers that right-clicks are not required anywhere close to as frequently in Mac OS X as in, say, Windows."
I'd say I right click as much as I left click, both in my browser, (Mozilla), and in Mail. If you deal with 100+ e-mails a day and put them in different mailboxes, it's all right click.
Posted by: scott lewis at August 5, 2005 10:56 PM
You give the iceKey short shrift. I am a happy (happy, happy, happy) Extended Keyboard II user. I have a couple spares and my ADB/USB adapter sees a lot of data flow.
Yet I also love the iceKey. I fell in love with the scissor mechanism the first time I used my PowerBook 1400cs. That first impression has held and remains strong with my PowerBook G4.
I'd say the iceKey is the second best keyboard out there. The Mattias uses the Apple Pro Keyboard layout. I hate that layout, in my mind, the F-Keys should be apart from the regular keys. Everytime I got to hit delete on the Pro Keyboard I end up hitting F12. That sucks. The Mattias wouldn't fix that. The iceKey, on the other hand, has the same layout as the Extended II and it's do have a nice, mechanical feel and click.
Posted by: Dustin Quasar Sacks at August 6, 2005 12:04 AM
Apple have shot themselves in the foot by waiting so long to produce a multi-button mouse. Instead of being on the Nth iteration of their design they are making 1st model design mistakes. This is understandable with a brand new product (like the iPod - even though the first one was cool, the current models have improved quite a bit since then). However, multi-button mice aren't new, they are ooooold hat by now.
I hope that Apple gets on the ball and quickly puts out the next iteration of their mouse design. It sounds like this one is largely a dud.
Posted by: Anthony at August 6, 2005 01:51 AM
> I hope that Apple gets on the ball and quickly puts out the next iteration of their mouse design. It sounds like this one is largely a dud.
The optimistic part of me hopes they're trying to get these things out into the wild so they can have v 2.0's by the time Intel Macs launch.
Posted by: Mat at August 6, 2005 02:13 AM
I have found the right click on my Mighty Mouse extremely annoying. The scroll ball though is very nice.
Just my 2¢
Posted by: Oliver at August 6, 2005 03:04 AM
As much as i'd like a scroll wheel mouse, i won't be buying one of these..
Posted by: Twist at August 6, 2005 08:31 AM
"...everyone knows the ADB Apple Extended Keyboard II was the best keyboard for the Mac ever made, and once it died the crown was picked up by the Matias Tactile Pro."
I find the Macally iKey to be a suitable replacement for the old ADB keyboards. Maybe not as nice as the Matias ones but you can get like 3 or 4 of them for the cost of a single Matias one.
And Mighty Moose said "...benefit of non-Mac-using readers that right-clicks are not required anywhere close to as frequently in Mac OS X as in, say, Windows."
I probably right-click once or twice per minute on my Mac but I almost never right-click on Windows machines. The amount of right-clicking a person does is going to be highly dependent on their personal work-flow not on the platform they are using.
Posted by: Adrian at August 6, 2005 12:56 PM
The design of the mighty mouse really caught me by surprise. I always imagined a multi-button mouse from Apple to resemble the click wheel of an iPod. Basically a track pad that you could press on the left, middle and right. Any non-pressing movement on the track pad would be interpreted as scrolling in the direction the finger is moving.
Posted by: Devon Shaw at August 6, 2005 03:16 PM
Sounds to me like guys and girls alike at Apple are having entirely too much fun clicking the mouse. :)
Posted by: DeanDMX at August 6, 2005 04:01 PM
I got one of these a few days after they were announced and its been performing fine for me. I think the right click is being made a bigger issue than it should be. It's not like you have to fully lift your finger off the mouse like you're pointing at the ceiling to get a click, you just have to not touch the left side of the mouse 1mm will be enough.
The biggest issue to me is the amount of pressure needed to click in the first place, meaning its not a lot.
The pro mouse let you adjust the amount of pressure needed for a click via a wheel on the bottom. There's no such mechanism on this mouse.
I find myself accidentally clicking while resting my hand on the mouse, which gets annoying.
Other than that I find it to perform quite well, the ball/nipple is excellent. I have more control now, I can even scroll 1 pixel at a time with ease.
Posted by: Ben at August 7, 2005 01:41 AM
Were all those emails about splooge pointing out that you should say "spooge" instead because it's funnier?
Posted by: Michael at August 7, 2005 02:16 PM
Wow! I was thinking that this product misses it on cost grounds. But _this_ is the killer. This stymies it. I have actually thought in the past that the single-button mouse might actually be worth using from an ergonomic point of view. (Actually, I occasionally do get pains in the hands and wrist from sustained use of a two button scroll wheel mouse.) But, if the Mighty Mouse requires one to lift the left finger, then is worse than either a single-button or a proper two-button mouse. No thanks, Apple.








Maybe a dirty Mighty Mouse trackball warrants a free replacement for the sheer complexity of having to open the mouse up yourself?