Days go by, and still I think of you
Amazing how many days can go by while I'm working on things for the site before I realize I haven't taken the time to actually put anything up. Sorry about that -- just pulled in about 20 directions, all of which converge on typing everywhere but the blog even though it's usually about the blog.
Having to grind things out on a few big things, but the above screenshot is a small sample of the next big chat which should be up this week, assuming the interviewee has a safe flight home. I've seriously abused this poor guy -- the chat is about halfway done, and as you can tell from the slide in the screenshot there's already a hell of a lot of content.
There are enough hints in the screenshot to find out who it's with, and if you're really industrious some judicious googling will pull up some reading material that'll easily keep your mind busy until the chat is up.
I'm actually really looking forward to it, because it's been an absolute bitch and a half. When I go into one of these, one of the things I try to do is to challenge myself by going into each one with a separate theme or goal.
I.E., one of the themes behind the Ranchero chat was to see how difficult it would be to take my usual loping format and apply it to two people. I'd had multiple before involved in something before, but not loping back and forth through multiple topics.
The overriding goal was to try and give a sense that you were sitting down to lunch with them -- to get an idea of how these two people approach their business, life, and each other but in an indirect way so you draw the conclusions yourself. Well, and having fun with it.
If the theme had been different going in, I'd have asked different questions -- like say more around the specifics of running their business and creating their software or specific features. I was just more interested in making it about their approach for this one.
They knew that going in -- Brent and Sheila don't exactly need the publicity, and the format and questions weren't really geared towards publicity or generating sales. It wasn't as though it was a completely passive thing on their end -- I took up a lot of their time (they were remarkably patient, and they refuse to give me a straight answer on whether I was responsible for a milestone slip), and whatever publicity they did get out of it was easily outweighed by the amount of time they spent doing it.
Again, I think they knew it would be going in, although I don't think they expected NetNewsCat. Amusingly enough, I actually toyed with the idea of approaching them with the idea of talking about everything except their business and software, and part of that idea is still there; hopefully you can go through that chat and cut out large sections of it and still come away with something real...
...which brings us to the the next chat. This one is going to be a bit different, as you probably got a taste of if you squinted at the screenshot. The Cow is going to be getting greater than usual face time, and he's going to be there for a reason. It's going to be deep in some areas, and it's really one of the harder things to deal with when you have a healthy mix of readers.
There's that nasty thing called a frame of reference that has to be contended with -- both from the side of the reader and the person being interviewed. The person being interviewed and the person asking the questions can make a conscious effort to keep the language accessible, but you have to draw a line somewhere just so you can build the conversation from it.
Unfortunately, the lower you draw the line, the lower you're able to go in the subject in the span of the chat, which is where the rub is. I.E., it would be difficult to really delve into OS-wide user-interface design when you first have to explain what a mouse is. At some point you have to decide what you're going to assume your audience knows and leave the rest behind.
However, if you draw the line too high, you end up with something that's only penetrable by the elite. A casual reader might enjoy it, but in the same way they enjoy Star Trek -- they're along for the ride with lots of jargon being spouted that just becomes background noise -- which is why things are either easy-peasy or dense beyond recognition.
Basically, do me a favor on the next one -- give it a shot. I don't expect everyone to fully grok everything, but my hope is that a lot fewer people will be left behind than otherwise would be if they don't immediately recoil. You may not get it all, but if you stick it out you may be surprised by what you come away with.
Oh, and the screen shot should also put those at ease who were personally, almost morally, offended by my former state of Desktop-itis. :) I'm told the first step towards recovery was to admit I was powerless, and that the situation had become unmanageable.
Eventually I'm supposed to make up a list of everyone I harmed through my disease and be willings to make amends to them all which -- judging by my inbox complaining about it -- is going to take me awhile.
Comments (18)
Posted by: eggsnatcher at March 22, 2005 12:35 PM
About time DrunkenBlog popped up in NewsFire! Nothing to say about the post (the interview sounds cool) but your ads on this page make no sense. Congratulations, you finally drove Google Adsense insane.
Posted by: Twist at March 22, 2005 03:38 PM
Just wondering what the little widget thing is floating in the upper left of the screen? Is it part of MarsEdit or something else? I don't see the Konfabulator gear menu in your menu bar so it isn't a widget for that.
Posted by: Oliver at March 22, 2005 04:06 PM
Twist, i'm fairly sure that's AdiumX (instant messenger client, and only the best one around!).
Posted by: A.I. at March 22, 2005 05:07 PM
I'm curious as to the funky OS X theme being paraded on DB's desktop. I know I should be squinting hard in order to determine who the article is about (and Googling hard) but those scroll bars are just weird ...
Is that a Tiger theme I spy? ;)
Posted by: Patrick Lemmens at March 22, 2005 05:35 PM
ah, I see a cow in a red shed....
Posted by: Oliver at March 22, 2005 06:09 PM
A.I., i'm fairly sure that's a theme called Cappuccino.
Posted by: Mindflayer at March 22, 2005 08:41 PM
DB wants to buy a Mistubishi.
Posted by: Derek at March 23, 2005 01:49 AM
I'm not going to stay on topic here, but where'd you get that desktop picture?
Posted by: Carl at March 23, 2005 04:25 AM
I for one feel that we would be better informed by Clarus, who carries the knowledge of both dogs AND cows inside bespotted belly, instead of just a normal old cow, but that's just me.
Moof.
Posted by: Carl at March 23, 2005 04:36 AM
Good job Google:
Data alignment: Straighten up and fly right by Jonathan Rentzsch of Red Shed Software.
Posted by: fesser at March 23, 2005 05:11 AM
(drools) That interview looks *huge*. I can't wait. :) I don't know Red Shed, but I liked that answer he gave.
Posted by: Sunny at March 23, 2005 06:57 AM
That screenshot made me wonder whether you can distinguish between all those links in the Dock. Is their a little tooltip that comes up? Otherwise it would be a usability nightmare!
I am sorry if this is a very obvious question, but I am Windows / Linux user. Looking forward to my first PowerBook in the near future.
Posted by: drunkenbatman at March 23, 2005 07:09 AM
The guesses regarding the questions were right...
Derek asks,
I'm not going to stay on topic here, but where'd you get that desktop picture?
No clue where I pick some things up, but I can send it on if you want it.
That screenshot made me wonder whether you can distinguish between all those links in the Dock. Is their a little tooltip that comes up? Otherwise it would be a usability nightmare!
When you hover the mouse over them, you get a tooltip. Having those links there isn't an ideal situation -- they're just where I drag things when I intend to do something with them shortly because you can't drag items into a folder in the dock. Of course I never do, and a month later the dock is full of 50 bookmarks and I'm doing a lot of scrolling.
It's not an area where the Dock excels.
Posted by: Jeff R at March 24, 2005 12:03 AM
Looking forward to the next interview.
I enjoyed the chat with folks at Ranchero.
Even walked away with a great quote, "We grow software."
I still think of that line...
Posted by: Elliot Anderson at March 25, 2005 04:44 AM
Could you send that background my way aswell. Thanks :P
Posted by: Chris at March 26, 2005 05:51 AM
Background is here:









That image is much nicer, but you still are dragging links to your dock!